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by **bigrobmjca AS350** » 01 Feb 2009 20:50

HELP! I'm going missed approach at Miami, (flying in to start the WCT 09') in a Cessna Citation Soverign. I cannot stop this thing. I don't want to crash and loose this flight. Tried to land and pulled back up because I know there was no chance of stopping. Can't find the autobrakes and don't think I have reverse thrust. I think the normal brakes may be malfunctioning and I don't think this has reverse thrust. HELP!

by **bigrobmjca AS350** » 01 Feb 2009 21:01

As of 3:01 central, this is happening right now. PLEASE HELP! I know y'all know more about this than I do. Please.

by **iang77** » 01 Feb 2009 21:08

Just a shot in the dark...Is the auto-throttle still engaged?

by **bigrobmjca AS350** » 01 Feb 2009 21:11

by **iang77** » 01 Feb 2009 21:16

According to AAS, you seem to have one helluva lot of fuel left onboard:

13056 Lbs 64.0% Remaining

Maybe you're too heavy...

by **bigrobmjca AS350** » 01 Feb 2009 21:17

stopped. I was all over the airport. I was just trying to steer clear of everything and not hit another building or jet. Praise God I got it stopped somewhere in the grass.

by **Leemazz** » 01 Feb 2009 21:18

Cut the engines might be a problem with the aircraft software set the autobrake to max arm the spoilers and watch it stop in about two white lines . restart the engines and give a cheeky wink to the tower on the way past .

by **bigrobmjca AS350** » 01 Feb 2009 21:36

Alright. I've noticed that. How do I determine how much fuel I need?

by **Leemazz** » 01 Feb 2009 21:39

Best thing to do is just set it to max till you get an idea of what you need try to make a note of it at the end of the flight what fuel is remaining .

by **iang77** » 01 Feb 2009 23:07

I use FS Navigator, which figures out fuel consumption over the course of your flight plan.

I believe you are required to carry enough fuel to make it to your destination, then to your alternate, plus another forty-five minutes.

There have been some threads on the forums here about calculating fuel in more detail.

by **Lochnivar-AS430** » 02 Feb 2009 06:17

Question,

What was your approach speed?

If you come in to "hot" then most aircraft have a tendency to "float". Even if it performed fine during the approach, at about 50ft you hit a cushion of air that is formed by the downward motion of your aircraft hitting the ground and pushing you up.

In that case I have a tendency to push the stick forward and land it. That's impatience on my part and I'm schooling that out of me.

I remember one time hitting the ground at 250KTs.

Yeah... Didn't get that plane stopped on that runway. Or the next...

I do remember taking the 5 back to the airport, first, no second exit.

I'll notify the maintence personnel. Next time, you buy them the beers

by **bigrobmjca AS350** » 02 Feb 2009 19:53

Don't remember what my approach speed but let me put it this way. I was thinking about going online and looking at what the stall speed was.

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